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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Hello, Graham.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Good day to you, Andrew!

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yes, I'm just, trying… trying out getting through, because my computer all keep… plugs keep falling out and things like that, so I'm just trying the system now. I'm hoping that there may be more of us from Martok, because we've been debating this thing in the last week.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Oh, have you? Yeah. Have you actually shown it?

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: It's been shown, but to very few people, and I want to get it shown again.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Yep.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: So that's really why I'm trying. Anyway, let me leave you to get on with your preparation work, and I'll come back to you at, whenever…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: You know, it's good to see you, and I hope it's not the new computer that's having trouble with the plugs.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Well, it's not. It's the… it's the fact that the old plugs don't fit into the new computer. They go via… via, you know.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: inverted.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Adapters and stuff, and the adapters always cause problems.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Yeah, yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: pain.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Okay, so I'll join you for a few minutes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Okay, thanks, Andrew, see you.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Good morning.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Thought I'd say hello.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Hello, but…

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: I know it's not started yet, I was just checking.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: No, no, no, I just come on early in case somebody does, and

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: occasionally, there are people who say, what the hell's going on here? I wasn't actually paying any attention to the screen at all.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: When you…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Which is why you had to speak to attract my attention.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Mmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Good morning, Julia. What part of the world are you in today?

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Dormington and Mordiford. I'm in Dormington.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: So, Dormington and Mordiford Parish Council.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Excuse me.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So remarkably ignorant of where that is.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: So, it's on the… it's between… exactly between Ledbury and Hereford, on the Ledbury Road, on the.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Okay, nice out that weird way, okay, good.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yes, that's what we think.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Good morning. Sorry, I beg your pardon, Judy. Sorry. Jamie, good morning to you. Nice to have our speaker with us.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Good morning, nice to see you all. Sorry for interrupting. No, not at all.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: We're expecting a whole bunch more, Jamie, so, you're not interrupting at all.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: That's super, thank you. But I do know that you're going to get a lot of interesting questions today.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Am I really?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: I'm sure you're used to this by now.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): That sounds rather ominous, but I'm sure it'll be fine.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: No, no, no, we're a very friendly bunch.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: I don't know, I don't know whether I'm on the right forum, but I'm particularly interested in arson prevention, arson detection, and lobbying to ban various things.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: And I've… as I say, I hope I'm on the right forum to discuss some of that, and obviously rewilding is a key part of that.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: But there are lots of other…

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: preventative methods, and I'm not sure whether or not

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: I'm on the right place to be talking about that, but I really, really want to be involved.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Where did you think you were getting into, Julia? Because we're going to be talking today about the,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: National Emergency Briefing and the People's Emergency Briefing.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yes, which, of course, is part of that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Well, yes, that's true, that is true, and I'm sure you'll be one of many who are raising questions on all sorts of topics, so we're looking forward to it.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yes, I'm looking forward to it. So I'll shut up now and listen.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: There's no one else to talk, so you may just as well carry on.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Oh, that's alright then.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): If you wouldn't mind, could I just check, am I going to be able to share slides, okay, or.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Oh, yes, yeah, no problems there. Made into it.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Co-host? Nope. Okay, super.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Well, obviously, coming to early… coming to meetings early is a good idea.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Oh, yes, you get a lot of the banter going backwards and forwards, which is… can be helpful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Hmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Since you're both here at the moment, I do like to ask people if they would just let us know in their Zoom namespace who they are and where they're from. So, to do that in Zoom, you go to the top right-hand corner, where there are three little horizontal dots. Click on that and select Rename, and if you just add to

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Where you are.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Well, that's somebody's screen, I can see.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I'm just, I'm just sharing, I was just checking it works.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: It's fine, Jamie, yup.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Super, thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Why are you speaking RC? I was gonna say, it looked like it was in Russian to start with, but…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: It was just…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): It's just the, that's definitely not good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: No. Your secret nature is out.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): All these years of hiding it, there we go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: There you go, yeah, that'll work.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Fine, yeah, super, thank you. Oh, and just, just let me check this one, because this is a little video, just let me check this one works.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Yep, that's fine.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: That's perfect.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Thank you.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Good. Play in, and I'll just stop sharing. Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Deb, I'm sort of curious,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, we've got Frank joining us from Killar. Hi, Frank!

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Frank Deas, Killearn: Hi there, sir.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, we were just discussing asking people to add their locations to their names. So, in the top right corner of your Zoom screen, you should see three horizontal dots.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: If you click on those, it'll ask you to rename yourself, and you can just add your…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: location, which would be very helpful. It's always useful to me when, checking out afterwards who people are and where they're being from.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Mordiford, yes, what a wonderful name. Dormington suggests you fast asleep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: But Mordiford sounds more like something out of,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: The Twin Towers or something, isn't it? Frodo and Milwo beggins, Mordor strikes together. Yes, Mordor!

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Frank Deas, Killearn: Potentially a new name, a new name for Detective Joe, Mordiford and Dormington. You can see them solving crimes. I just have to forget what the individual quirks are.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: The crime that happens most frequently in Mordiford is the medieval bridge gets smashed into, I think, probably once a week.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Really?

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Is it difficult to approach? I mean, how come drivers hit it?

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Because they go too fast. It's generally delivery drivers, but not always.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: And sometimes we think they're targeting it on purpose. I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Oh dear. Well, if it's survived from medieval times, it's doing pretty well.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yeah, I'm not sure how much longer it's going to survive.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: The van's getting bigger and heavier.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: They… well, it is, they are, they're getting wider, but also the flood water, it's the River Lug it crosses, but it's just by the confluence with the Y.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: And the amount of flood water we get when we do get it is massive now.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: So the pressure on the medieval bridge structure has been damaging it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Has it been raining there today?

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: No, the last lot of rain we got here was about 2 months ago, I think.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: We had a tiny bit of rain overnight.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: I'm down in the south, and we've had quite constant rain for the last few hours.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Oh, I feel quite envious.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Gardeners are absolutely delighted.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: I've got rain envy.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: So where, where are you, Graham?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: I am on the Isle of Wight.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Oh, oh, where my tomatoes come from.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Probably, possibly.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: They come out of my greenhouse as well, but I'm having to supplement them now.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: You are sitting.

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: We bought our first storm in Somerset for, what, 2 months?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: You just hadn't…

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: Somerset?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So I…

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Andrew Clegg, Martock, Somerset: I saw rain last night, I haven't seen a drop for weeks and weeks and weeks.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Right.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Well, we're getting all the smoke from the Welsh wildfires, so,

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: railing wind is from the southwest, so we're the first hill the smoke hits after the Black Mountains, and nights are dreadful because of the amount of smoke from the wildfires.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Have you considered throwing 100% tariffs on goods from Wales?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: I mean, that's clearly the way to do things nowadays.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: My name isn't Trump.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Oh, well.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: I can flatter you by saying you don't look like him either.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: No, I look a lot more knackered than him.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Oh no, I always say he looks very dissipated.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yes, he does.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Julia Mann. I keep away from anything to do with him, apart from reading how well the Democrats are doing.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Who knows?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And I hope they're gonna do a lot better.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Yes, they need to.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Yep.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Huh.

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Mordiford and Dormington PC Julia Cotton: Okay, I'll mute myself now.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Alright.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, as just new people join, could I please ask them to go into their Zoom nameplate and change their names to where they are? I mean, add where they are to where they are. So, top right-hand corner, three horizontal blue dots, or white dots.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Just select Rename and change to… Where you're from, please.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Where you from, son?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Good day, Mr. Mordiford.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Say that?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Where are you from?

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Back from… I'm from Gloucestershire. You're back from the waves? Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Temporarily,

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: dear.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: No, I'm back from the long-distance travel, I'm now racing around the boys at the moment.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Okay, I love that.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: locally.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Oh, right, thank you. Oh, you… oh, are you? Oh, gosh. Is this some kind of regatta, is it?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: it's, yeah, so August is…

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: sailing month in Bembridge, so we.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Oh, okay.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: you start with Cows Week, and then you go to Seaview, and then you go to Bembridge, and then you try and find whatever other things you've missed.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Is Bambridge the best, I suppose you're gonna say so.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Can I get into that?

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Is Bembridge the best, are you going to say so?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Oh, it doesn't need saying.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Exactly.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: These things are much more important when everyone realizes that they just can't compete.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Indeed, indeed.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Good luck with the other… immovable or unbeatable competitors.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Yes, I'm afraid they are unbeatable, unfortunately.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Yes.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Oh, well, into every life, a little rain must fall, I'll now mute myself and shut up.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Well, there's,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: A lovely story about… there's a class of yachting, or yachts, called illusions, which are models, if you will, of the 12 meters that used to be the America's Cup boat.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And you actually sit inside these things, you're enclosed by them, and you steer with your feet on the bottom of the mast, and you're very, very close to the water. And the first time I went out in one of these things.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: I couldn't see anything, because I was wearing glasses, and at that height above the water, every single drop of spray or anything completely blinds you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, the races are very short, they're maybe sort of 10 or 15 minutes each, and at the end of every 15-minute race, there was a long wait, while the 20 other people had to wait for me to catch up and finish. And at the end of it, a very disillusioned person, like, went ashore and said, this is awful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And the guy said, well, he says, you shouldn't feel too bad. He said, that one there is an Olympic helmsman, that one there is a national helmsman, and that guy there sails for Britain, so don't feel too bad.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: The competition is intense.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Oh, right.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Or even in boats, yeah, good stuff.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Morning, Chris.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Good morning, can you hear me?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: this.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Yes, you can, okay, great.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: My, my, my, my local district councillor and leader, green party member stuff.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Good.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: If I could just make one more request to people to add where they are to their names for those who are still catching up, please.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Top right-hand corner of your screen should be 3 little horizontal blue or white dots on a blue background.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Click on Rename there, and just add your location to you. Just… it helps to identify where people are talking from.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Of course, you might be very shy, like David, and you're not willing to put it up there that you're from some strange place in the middle of Hampshire.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: As opposed… as opposed to our overseas member, yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Yeah.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: jamie, I think that we have got the vast majority of the people that we're expecting.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, may I pass it over to you, please? By all means, feel free to go ahead and introduce yourself, tell us what you're going to talk about and why.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And then stand ready for the barrage of assaults.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): That's lovely, Graeme. Thank you ever so much, and thank you all for inviting me to be here today. My name's Jamie Russell. I am the Community Organising Lead at the National Emergency Briefing Team. I've been in the role for… I think it's 5 weeks now, but it certainly feels like about 5 years, given the volume of things that we're going through at the moment. I was previously at Zero Hour, which was, some of you might know, was the campaign for the Climate and Nature Bill.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): where I was actually supporting a lot of the work the National Emergency Briefing was doing, so it's really great to be part of the team now. So I'm going to give you a little overview today about what we've been doing. Some of you might already know, but some of you might not, so I'm just going to start at the beginning and quickly run through, all of that, and kind of what's next for us, where we're up to, what's happening, there's lots of exciting things happening, and where we're up to. So I'm just going to share my screen, which is the point where I always come out, break out in a slight

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): wet, because I'm like, will it work or not?

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Hello, Lynn. Yes, I am indeed from Shrewsbury.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Lovely to see you here. Right, this should hopefully be great if I do that, and then if I get it to…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Play from the start.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Continue to share. Hopefully you can see that. Please shout at me if you can't.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Super. Thank you ever so much. So, as I said, I'm part of the National Emergency Briefing Team. As lots of you will probably know, the National Emergency Briefing Initiative started in November of, 2025. We held an in-person event for MPs, business leaders, faith leaders, peers, various celebrities turned up as well at Westminster Hall, which is, the building you can see there in the picture.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And the idea was that eight leading UK scientists and experts would brief the audience on the latest science on the climate and nature crisis in order to fully inform them about the risks that we now face. And they covered a range of different topics. Each speaker spoke, for about 12-14 minutes and covered a specific issue to them. There were talks on food security, on health, on extreme weather, national security.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Et cetera, et cetera.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Let me have a look here. So, that's the, little shot for you of the hall. There's, Angela Francis, who was talking about economics while we were there. And now following the event, the,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): the team went away and basically took all of the amazing footage that we had of the scientists talking, and put together a 50-minute documentary, featuring Chris Packham.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Which, took a slightly different take from the actual event itself, as the event was very science-led.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The film that we put together, was actually very much focused on the emotion that the science, kind of triggers in people. So it was a real attempt to have this film be a conversation, about how we feel about things and how we feel about the impacts that we're already seeing.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The film itself takes a kind of gogglebox format, I don't know if any of you have seen that Channel 4 show, but basically people sit on the sofa and watch television, so this was Chris Backham sitting with some celebrities in ordinary Britons, talking about… watching the briefings, and then talking about their reactions to them. I'm just gonna play you, I'm hoping this will work, let's see, play you the, one-minute trailer for the film.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The climate we live in today is the least extreme climate we will experience in our lifetimes. That's a shocker.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): In November of last year, I joined some of the UK's top scientists to bring MPs up to date on all aspects of the climate and nature crisis. On our weather, our food supply, our health, our national security. Europe's been hit again and again by severe floods.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Those narrow streets, you can see that happening in London or another city here.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): This is what happens when food systems fail. I honestly don't think people realize how immediate this is going to be.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The climate crisis is now a threat to national security.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): What we need to do on climate also makes Britain safer. This is like a today issue, not a tomorrow.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): None of this is impossible, and the rewards on the other side are enormous. There is the potential for great change and for things to be better.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Spread the word. Invite your friends and neighbours to go to a screening.

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Audio shared by Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I'd make sure that everybody and every school and every place of work had to sit down and listen to this.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Brilliant, so hopefully that, all works.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): That'll teach me not to…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): to do the wrong thing, to let me work out how to get past this, there we go, fantastic, thank you. Sorry for the technical pitch. So, the People's Emergency Briefing was released in April, earlier this year.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Currently, the aim was, essentially two things. One was to inform the UK public about the gravity and urgency of the environmental crises that we face. none of us quite expected summer 2026 to be quite the way it has been, so, you know, in many ways.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): the timing has been, I don't want to use the word perfect, but the timing has been interesting, shall we say, in terms of alerting people to the fact that we are in the midst of quite a serious crisis. And the second aim was to build support for the government to hold a, national televised briefing. Now, this wasn't to screen the film, this was very much to go into that, kind of COVID briefing, to the nation that we saw a few years ago.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So, so far to date, we've had, almost 3,200 screenings have been registered on the map on the, website.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): these… some of those have already been held, obviously some of those are upcoming. We've got screenings running all the way through this year into next year. There's just a, seems to be an inexhaustible appetite for screenings.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And it's continuing to grow. We estimate, and this is a very hard figure to tell, but we estimate, based on, kind of, average audiences, that by the time those 3,000 screenings are done, we'll probably have 180,000 people will have seen the film, in community settings.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And the film is very much geared to be part of an event, so it's a 50-minute film, followed by a facilitated discussion, talking about the emotional impact of the film.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): the impacts that are being seen in the community from climate and nature breakdown, and then mobilize people to take the next step in terms of lobbying MPs, hosting their own screenings, spreading the word, and kind of being part of this journey that we're currently on.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So we're seeing 145 cross-party MPs have now supported our call for a televised emergency briefing, which is… it's growing at a really amazing rate,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And we also, this weekend, our petition that Chris Packham had launched, calling for a televised emergency briefing by the government, crossed the 100,000 signatures mark, which is quite a key milestone, and that basically means it will now be considered for debate, within Parliament. We're waiting to hear when exactly that will be.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): is this film is actually changing the national conversation in really interesting ways. So it's been getting huge media attention. There was a caller on James O'Brien's LBC show a few days ago, who was, you know, breaking down in tears, talking about she volunteered at a National Trust property. She was talking about the impact she's seeing working there, and her attempts to get the film screened at the National Trust property where she works. But what we're really seeing it doing is

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So, we're lucky to be partnered with, some brilliant academics at Bath University, and they've been doing a survey, that runs kind of before people see the film and then afterwards, and charting their responses to, their reaction to the film and how that's shaping their opinions.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So we've seen that after seeing the film, 56% of audience members come out feeling more hopeful, versus 15% who feel less so. And that's really quite something, because the film is very hard-hitting, you know, what we hear from a lot of people, it's very emotional.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): some people haven't been, you know, exposed to the science, before, and don't actually realize quite how bad things are. So, for some people, there is a real emotional component to it. But it's great to see that, actually.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): people are feeling more hopeful as a result of seeing it, and having the conversations that follow the film, but also, you know, the key stat for us is the 87% who feel motivated to act, and so that to us is a real sign that this is

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Potentially really mobilizing people, to continue taking action in the, the kind of climate and nature space.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And the key for this is that what the film does, I think, really well, is it's informing people about the risks that we're facing, and people are actually finding that quite empowering. And this is quite contrary to what a lot of MPs are telling us, so quite a few MPs are saying, you know, we're really worried about scaring people, because we think if we scare people, they won't want to

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The research that we've seen is actually… shows kind of the opposite.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And it's been interesting timing, because the release of the emergency briefing in November, and then the release of the film in April has kind of run parallel to some other things that have been happening within this space, which kind of suggests that the public isn't being fully informed. Now, lots of you probably know about the Joint Intelligence Committee report, that's this, on global biodiversity loss as a national security risk to the UK.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The Times newspaper got hold of, a copy of that report, and also a DEFRA report that was talking about, Britain's food supply at risk of catastrophic failure by 2030.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): As far as I know, the DEFA report still hasn't been publicly released. The Joint Intelligence Committee report, so that's the one written by MI5, MI6,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): was released in an abridged form, I think it was something like 120 pages, reduced down to 20, after lots of campaigning, by, people across the UK. There's currently a parliamentary debate coming up in September about it as well, and I know, so my MP sits on the Environmental Audit Committee.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And I understand that even the Environmental Audit Committee was blocked from seeing a full copy of the report, even though they have, kind of, privileged access to get hold of things like that.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): there is a sense that, you know, this emergency briefing and the people's Emergency Briefing is filling something of a gap where people are feeling that they're not being given all of the facts. And as I said, you know, this summer, I think, has really focused minds. The extreme heat waves we've been seeing.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): This summer, coupled with earlier in the year, things like Storm Goretti, you know, I've spoken to a lot of people who live in Cornwall and the South West who've talked to me about just how devastating that experience was for lots of them, actually. You know, whole villages cut off for several days without power, water, internet, phone.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So it does feel like we're seeing a cascading series of crises, if you like, and that people are… minds are being focused as a result.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): informing the public fully about what needs to be done, the government is actually… will actually put itself in a stronger position to be able to deliver on what it needs to do. Now, you may have seen in the 7th carbon… Budget 7,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): You know, the advice of the government was very much that there needs to be public buy-in for the changes that need to happen, because they need to happen at such scale. And in order to do that, the public needs to be fully informed about the risks that we face in our communities.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So there is a real sense that by owning the emergency of the… the urgency of the problems, excuse me, the urgency of the emergency, the government can really put itself in a really strong position to be able to properly have the conversation with the public about the risks, properly have the conversation about what needs to be done, and secure public buy-in in terms of next steps. So that this idea, as you can see on the last

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): part of this slide here, you know, space opens up for action, very much about increasing trust between government and the public, opening up new pathways for public participation. I mean, I think in many ways, the film is kind of… is bringing that public participation along in many ways, outside of a kind of government role, within communities.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And really then does put the government in the position to be able to actually deliver on its existing commitments and whatever other commitments it might feel that need to be brought into bear, given the scale of the crisis that we're facing.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): just very briefly, so we've been doing a lot of work just recently with, local councils, which I thought might be of interest to you. So, we know that councils are in the front line of the climate and nature crisis,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): over 100 councils now have held people's emergency briefings, either for public, but increasingly we're seeing them holding it for staff and elected members. Some of these have held them multiple times, I think, as a total aggregate, we're over 200 screenings now at a council level, and this is all sizes of council, from Parish all the way up to the biggest metropolitan councils.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): we've actually started… so this kind of happened organically without our input, and so we've now actually realised that we kind of need to support councils in this, so we're actually stepping up. We have a specific councils pack that we're now sharing out to local councils, and it talks a lot about the impact of climate and nature risk on delivery of services. I mean, that's a really key thing for councils, business continuity and community resilience.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Unlike some of the training that councils do that's brilliant, like carbon literacy training, all of these brilliant things, this is a slightly… this prompts a slightly different conversation in our experience, so it runs really nicely in parallel with some of the training that Council's already putting into place.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And we've seen councils starting to pass motions in support of a televised emergency briefing by the government, and they started doing that of their own… of their own accord, actually, so it's something that we're now encouraging, because we know this is a really good way

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And these council screenings, I should say, are kind of happening alongside, other organization screenings that we're now seeing happening as well, so…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): We've seen an awful lot of really major UK organisations, asking to screen the film internally for staff, people like the Met Office, Transport for London, National theater, Channel 4, Environment Agency, Nationwide Building Society, the list goes on and on. So we're actually working… we now have specific resources for workplace screenings, for business screenings, there's a bit of crossover between those two, obviously.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): This autumn, we're launching a special schools pack for, schools for six forms and colleges, so 16 upwards is our, our kind of target range there.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And really looking at using the film as a way to spur young people into stepping up as civic actors, and giving them all the scaffolding that they need in order to encourage them to do that, and really engage with their MPs on this issue, but also wider on climate and nature issues.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And that kind of brings me to…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I guess, what's next, really, for us? So, as I mentioned at the beginning, you know, we have this key petition, which runs to November, so we've been, you know, pleasantly surprised by the fact that we've hit this 100,000 milestone ahead of the actual petition, way ahead of the petition coming to an end. I mean, we're only in August.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): But we do also see, looking forward into the autumn and the winter, you know, the scientists are warning, there are real risks of increasing impacts from the El Nino that's currently happening, you know, the, they call it Super El Nino, Godzilla, El Nino.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Which is not just going to be across the globe, but also is likely to hit us here in the UK in the autumn.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Which, after the summer we've had and the impact on farmers and businesses, you know, is, suggests that there's not going to be any let-up for climate and nature breakdown being kind of a key topic of conversation.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): We're seeing grassroots pressure continue to grow on MPs. As I said, we're seeing several MPs every week joining, the call for a televised emergency briefing. This is really cross-party, which is great to see.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): screenings in terms of the pipeline, it looks like, will be continuing into 2027. There doesn't seem to be any let up in appetite. People are really keen to screen this film. We're seeing people hosting it multiple times. The most I heard was someone who's done 11 screenings now within their community, which is, you know, really…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): really quite something, and I think it's something that people find really rewarding to do. Unlike a lot of things in the climate and nature sphere, this actually feels like something that's very deliverable, manageable, has a certain end and an output that is visible, and I think that maybe ties in with some of the enthusiasm that we've encountered for it.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I think it's French, German, Czech, Bengali, you know, a whole, whole range. But we're also seeing other groups internationally taking the model that we've built, and we've kind of open-sourced it for other groups.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And kind of running it in their own countries. So, I understand that Germany is looking at doing one in 2027, which would be its own national emergency briefing, using its own scientists in a kind of live, live setting, event, and then following up with its own version of the People's Emergency Briefing film, again, following the same format, but with local experts, celebrities, local people,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I'm here on this call today to say, you know, if you haven't already seen the film, please do go along and see one, and if it's something that you'd be interested in hosting, either within your community or within an organization that you're part of, please do have a look at the website. I'll pop the details in the chat in a minute. Get in touch directly with me if you have any questions.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): But yes, we'd love to have you be part of this initiative.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Jamie, thank you very much for that. That's, really interesting, actually, to see how the numbers are growing. I've got a couple of questions of my own, which you triggered during your speech. So, do we have any idea of

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: what it is that causes MPs to feel that they cannot give the general British public bad news, that there's going to be horror and desperation. And this is a country that's been bombed to pieces during the Second World War. It's had all sorts of incidents, and every instance shows that we come out stronger than ever. So why… where do they get this feeling that we… they can't tell us the bad news? Do you know?

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): or they're worried about us making too big changes too quickly, but the polling that I've seen, I'll need to find the link to it, I don't remember whose polling it was, does suggest that actually they're underestimating that appetite completely. So I think that maybe ties into some of it. I think…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): an awful lot of the time, it needs someone to step up and say that this is an emergency in order for us to get beyond that bystander effect, and really, I think, for everybody to be on the same page. And that's a lot of what this initiative is all about, you know, resetting that national conversation so that we can say, actually, we really are in a crisis, and it's not going to go away anytime soon. Next year is likely to be worse than this year, etc, etc. So we do need

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): We do need to, rethink how we communicate to the public and how we communicate to each other as well.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And the other question I had was, the reaction from MPs. Do you see any shift? Because our MP came to our showing, and he's only a young man, he's in his 30s, and he assured us that

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: the MPs in Parliament that he had met and talked to were fully aware of the situation and were going to do something about it. And three days later, the Conservative Party announced that if they got back into power, they would immediately chop all the net-zero nonsense that's going on.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yeah, I'll just say… might say thanks very much for that,

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: interesting summary of the film. I think most of us on this meeting have actually seen the film.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: One of my big concerns at the moment is the sort of lurch to the right of, politics.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Essex County Council has now become reform.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Their first major policy was to scrap stupid net zero.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: I was just listening to a press briefing by the Shadow Energy Secretary.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: obviously get rid of this stupid net zero. Does the NEB have any sort of response to this?

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): That's a, very interesting question, Stuart. So, I should start by saying that the National Emergency Briefing is completely nonpartisan.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So we are science-led, and we're not, we're trying to stay out of the politics of this, obviously. And the MPs that support the call out to MPs, obviously, is cross-party as well. That said, I do recognize the description that you're talking about, in terms of a general step towards…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): away from tackling the emergency at the scale and speed that's necessary. So, really, what our role is, we think, is very much to focus on the science and ensure that we're getting that science out to the public, which is what I think the film does a really good job of, what the individual briefings that are on the website, but you can see in more depth.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And it really is our hope that by properly informing the public, then the public will be able to make the choices necessary and put the pressure on where it feels is necessary onto politicians. And I think, I mean, I really do come back to this, because I think it's really true. I think this year has certainly

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): it's a very difficult position now to be taking, to be saying you are against mitigating, climate crisis, when we are seeing UK food production on the brink of collapse, as per the DEFRA report that the Times reported on. You know, talking about the realistic potential for catastrophic collapse of UK food supply by 2030.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Who knows how accurate that will turn out to be, but the fact that that's even a conversation for 4 years ahead, to me seems… makes it very untenable to hold a position of.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): it's just a heat wave, it's just summer, we don't need to do anything about this. So I think the really interesting thing we'll see to be how that conversation evolves between mitigation and adaptation.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I sense there's going to be a lot of, well, we can just adapt our way out of this, when I think the science is really clear that in order to have any ability to adapt, we really need to be mitigating at the same time at all, because the level of change we're going to see is likely to be unadaptable, too.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, the government's response to, Jackdaw and Rosebank.

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Cllr Stuart Withington Gt Dunmow TC, Essex: Thank you.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Hi, Jamie. Congratulations on your global reach of the, of the briefing. I've looked at the map recently, and I was quite surprised to see all those flags popping up all over the world.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Looking at the map, last time I looked, there was clear gaps in the geographical spread of the briefings. There were whole communities, quite large communities, that didn't seem to have any show screenings at all.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Are you actively working to kind of target these missing communities to get them screenings so that people in those communities can go and see the film?

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): We are. It is something that we're very aware of, and we look at that map as well, and are aware of the need to reach out. I mean, we… I should add that we are a very small team, and to say that we are over capacity would be quite an…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): to be coming to us to screen, because obviously we don't have the capacity to be running our own screenings in these communities. We are working through partners to try and reach out to people, in places where there are yet to be screenings, but it is, you know, it is a slow process. I'm hoping, though, that this is actually…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): it's part of a long tail. So, at the very beginning, obviously, you know, we had a small number of screenings, and they've mushroomed, you know, increasingly. And I'm hoping as that mushroom effect continues, we will see screenings starting to happen in places where there currently aren't many. And it does seem to be, what we've noticed, and what really excited me, actually, because it's only in the last few weeks that we've really seen this.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): they're saying to us, I've already got 30 bookings, and I haven't even advertised this yet. And it appears to be that people are actually coming to the National Emergency Briefing website.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): searching for their postcode and searching to find the nearest screening. So I'm really hopeful that this will encourage more people, you know, when they're on the website, to see that they can host as well, and say, actually, yes, maybe I'll take that step.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So, I realize I'm not giving you a firm answer, because I think the reality is, we're really over capacity, so it's very difficult to have someone completely on point on that issue, even though we'd like to. It's something that we're trying to reach out to other partners to kind of support us in.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): One of the interesting things, though, has been local councils running screenings, because I think they're actually really well placed to maybe run screenings in places where

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): potentially the public maybe don't feel they have the confidence, or the ability, or the means, or the time, or the capacity to run them themselves. So, one thing we've also seen local councils doing recently, I'm beginning to see an awful lot more library screenings, which is really fascinating, and libraries being that hub of the community, and I know how cuts have devastated them.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Is a really great way to bring in… to bring in other… other members of the community who maybe wouldn't have come across this initiative yet, and maybe then can be encouraged to host their own screenings, too.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Thank you. Christopher, please, you appear to be talking to us from the International Space Station. Wonderful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Your background view, Chris.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And you're muted at the moment?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Here we go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: You've gone back to me muted, Chris. You did successfully unmute yourself, but then it's gone back… there we go.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: We can hear you now. Nope, you stopped it.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, you're still muted, Chris?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: No, not yet.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: You should be able… if you speak now…

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sarah in Millbrook, Torpoint: I'll bring you back in a minute.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Chris, you're showing is unmuted, but you're not… oh, you're crazy. I know. Yep.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: We can hear you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: It's just gone off again. I think you're probably suffering from slow connectivity and a slow computer, so when you hit it and nothing happens, you come off.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: You know.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: is unmuted.

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sarah in Millbrook, Torpoint: Yeah.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Can you hear me?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Yes, we can.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Yeah.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Okay, thank you, Jamie, for a good presentation, a good catch-up.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: I'm the climate lead.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Councillor in the Forestadine District Council.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: and… We've had liter… climate literacy

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Courses for the last 2 or 3 years.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: an emergency.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Back in 2018.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: I've seen many of these briefings, I've seen many of these

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: These speeches which say, you know, there is hope if we act now.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: And people tend to walk away from those meetings and those TV programs.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: And it's almost unbelievable, but they forget. They're distracted by something else. Every day of life cuts in.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: And any groups that form, To, tackle, you know, locally, to… to act on the climate emergency.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Tend to weigh the venue.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: And die, and walk away, and fold.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: I can understand that the main reason for having these people emergency briefings is to influence MPs.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: To put in all… Return… Teebs.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: To the systems we're currently running, so the carbon footprints themselves

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: But also, I also understand that, some of the MPs do not… Share.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: That view, and do not… Want to, join up for various reasons.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: And if they don't, and if the government doesn't act urgently, as they should do, is there… are there any ways that we can sort of go around the government and…

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: a bigger movement.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Like we had in 2018, which almost not holds them to ransom, but puts them in such a difficult position that they cannot

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Continue, you know, burning fossil fuels, contracts, With oil contracts, and… Nope.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Et cetera, et cetera.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: So it's a bit of a… A roundabout question to say, What happens when nothing happens?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Jamie, I think the ball's back on your court.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Okay, sorry, I was just checking Chris had finished. Thank you, Chris. Really interesting question. I feel like I'm going to deflect it slightly, in two ways. The first way is to say.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I think what's really interesting about this is that something is happening. We're really seeing a massive mobilization, in a way, and I've been

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): working in this space for the last 7, 8 years, and this is the biggest mobilization I've seen for a long time, it feels like. So, I guess the first thing to say is it feels like something is happening. Where that will lead us, we will need to see, but it does feel like people are laser-focused in terms of, ensuring that the government

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): is being frank with the public, and I think it's becoming increasingly difficult for them to not be, as the impacts are really hitting us now. It's… the proposition seems to be very different.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): In terms of what to do, should the government fail to deliver what I might say it needs to deliver, and some of us here would say.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I think that might be beyond the scope of what the National Emergency Briefing is doing. You know, we have a very clear goal, in terms of the televised emergency briefing.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): the conversation around what other methods there are would probably be best asked of other initiatives and groups, and, you know, the climate and nature movement is a very… it's a very large one, and we're only a small part of this. So I think it's probably incumbent on me not to…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): To speak for others, or to… to represent other people's interests in this, but

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): you know, there is clear… there are clearly lots of parallel tracks that are running at the same time at the moment, put it that way, and I think, what we see are the people who are hosting screenings, are coming to screenings, are people who wear lots of different hats, whether that be in terms of other activism, in terms of,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Volunteering with other groups, or involvement with other groups. And it does feel as though we're all pushing in the same direction at the moment.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Albeit sometimes through different means. So, I think that conversation is probably one that would need to have more people than just me here, to be honest with you.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Come back quickly?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Yep.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Motion to a council, to a full council.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: And also, writing to the MP to make sure the MP is on board. And if so, could you send it to me, please? Certainly. I could get that through for the September 4th Council.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Fantastic. We actually have a councils pack, which I will pop into the…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): chat in a second, and that has the template motion and everything else that you need, which would be really useful to you. And if you do need to, I'll pop my email address as well. Feel free to reach out to me if that's useful.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Many thanks. Hi, Jamie. Great to have heard from you, and to see the latest, the results from the screenings. I understand about the laser focus that you've mentioned, because we experienced that firsthand. We've had…

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: The great Collaboration has been very much, ever since we started in Herefordshire, actually, focusing on getting parishes and their communities to work together on climate action and nature recovery. We've been continually developing on that.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: And I understand the focus of Simon and Nick and the NEB team on getting something happening at parliamentary level, at government level, but in the meantime, there are a lot of us who feel that actually doing things at the grassroots and working, you know, the bottom-up approach is really what's going to make more of a difference more quickly, and it's important to get that through.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: We have done, I've put it in the chat, we did do a briefing about this, we did our own 10-minute film, would you believe, for Parish Councillors.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: And I wrote to, the team,

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: I appreciate you. She's only been there for 5 weeks, James, this is before your time, so I'm not… I'm not shouting at you, my friend. end of April, and, sent this across, and, the message came back, thanks for this, Andrew, we will look to discuss how we can action some of these points this week, exclamation mark. Well, none of them has happened.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: And, people are getting into these screenings, and they're not being made available, the opportunity to think about encouraging climate act… community action, local action, which some people are asking for, which we've gotten some advice for. Maybe, maybe, perhaps now that, we've got 100,000

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: things for a debate in Parliament. Simon and Nick and your team might feel that they've achieved a great deal, but I would… I'm going to ask you is, you've got the community organiser hat.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: So…

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: What… whether you think, actually, at some point, using the film to encourage more local action might be possible.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Yes, Andrew, and I did… I think I did see your email, back in July, after I joined, and I was really grateful to Linda for connecting us up, because, you were on my… my to-do list of people to speak to, and I apologize for the… apologies for the slow delay. As I said, this has been…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): a bit of a rollercoaster ride for the NEB team, and the sheer level of

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): requests is quite overwhelming, to be honest, but we are chugging through them. Apologies if it took a little bit longer than it should have done to get back to you. I completely agree about local action, so I've hosted lots of these screenings myself, and we are really keen to give people the opportunity at the end of the screenings to bring in local groups who might be involved. We do not say to hosts, please don't signpost to local

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Groups, in fact, quite the opposite.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I'm currently going through, with colleagues, going through the screening guidance and everything else, and we're updating that at the moment, and that's definitely something that I'm adding in, a kind of more signposted version of, yes please. You know, I think it's really important, the mobilization that's happening

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): is bigger than just the mobilization for the, televised emergency briefing. We're really keen to see people continue taking local action at a local level.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The problem is, of course, is that it's really decentralized for us, so we're reliant on local hosts to actually be, you know, holding those follow-up meetings, for audiences who come, signposting people in the right direction to local, groups and actions that they know about, and obviously that we don't have on-the-ground knowledge of.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So there is that slight disconnect there. So I'm hoping that, updating the screening guidance, and the kind of support package that we give to hosts will really encourage that. And I actually think, you know.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): part of the civic engagement thing that we're adding in now, in terms of speaking to local councils, parish councils, upwards, for people who've been to a screening, I think, you know, that kind of maybe helps in that way, as well, of making people realize that this isn't just come and see the film and sign the letter to your MP, but is actually part of a pattern of ongoing, continued action, because actually what you've just learned about in the film is so huge. So I completely agree with you, Andrew, on what you're saying.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And, it is in hand, I think.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And I'm hoping we'll see some really fruitful, results moving forward. And as I said, screenings are going… continuing on into next year, so, while this would have been great to have everything

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): perfect in place in April. We've been on quite a learning experience in terms of how hosts are using the packages we're giving them, what some of the local reactions are, what people actually want to see locally as well, so we're encouraging lots of feedback from people and trying to… trying to shape things in a way that will make things, A, more streamlined for them, and B, more productive in terms of a continued pathway of mobilization.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Beyond just, just to go to a screening and sign a petition. So yes, thank you.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: I'm enormously pleased to hear what you've just said. What we've produced is a 10-stage approach to community action, which very much references the guidance that you've already produced from your team.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: And is it intended to be integrated with it. So, and absolutely, it's got to be local leadership that, that, carries on with this. So, dare I suggest that, sharing, sharing that advice with screens, which I don't know.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Promised in public we'll now look at, is… is…

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: simple way to solve that particular issue. The other thing I'll mention while I've got the microphone is that, one of the concerns about all of this, and this has been raised in different ways by people already, it's the way we tell them. How do we reach people with these important

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: messages. Obviously, the film has done a great piece of work, but we've still got this horrible, rather sterile, net zero, or not net zero.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: debate, happening in the press. So we're getting together with other community climate organisations in October to look at how we might actually work together to identify, develop, and support a continuous

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: wellspring of positive actions, are very much looking at what people can be doing at a local level. So, if need, the NEB team are wanting to get into that line of work as well, please let me know, because we're having that meeting on October the 13th.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Brilliant. Please do feel share… feel free to share anything on that line with me. As I said, I'm literally in the process of rewriting some of the materials now, so it would be… if you do have anything, that you think I should be looking at, send it my way, because I would really value the experience that's on this call. would be fantastic, so thank you.

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Andrew Maliphant, Great Collaboration, Gloucestershire: Welcome! Can I say welcome? Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: David, please.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: James, this isn't going to be targeted at you, because actually, what you're doing is…

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: Getting people mobilized, and that's your… that's the function of the, the climate emergency briefing. It's about engaging people.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: Going back to your point, Graham, about why do MPs, Sort of…

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: react the way they do. I think two things. One, I think there is a tendency by government to treat us as children.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: So there's an element of the nanny state. You know, we're not… we're not old enough and ugly enough to make our own decisions, we'll make it for you.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: I think that's part of it. The other bit is, psychologically, We tend to reflect

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: What we feel on other people.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: So, if an MP feels overwhelmed and doesn't quite know how to do it, he therefore makes that sort of subconscious decision that everybody else feels the same as him.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: So I think there is an element of… of… of how do we get these MPs to actually, sort of.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: Realize that we're… we're all adults in the room, and that we are quite capable of making hard, difficult decisions, and that we are part of the… we are part of the solution, not part of the problem.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: I find this… I mean, I know some of you have heard this before, but I find the whole thing utterly…

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: frustrating about how la- the sort of lack of joined-up thinking. Because, in fact, there are two things going on simultaneously. There is the climate threat.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: The climate threat is generating, or has the capability of generating a security threat.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: So we've got immigration as a part of that, but also we've got, you know, potentially the Russian threats coming through, too.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: And yet, where we're talking about energy and food resilience, they are both solutions to both problems.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: And I think…

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: what I get very frustrated about is that we talk an awful lot about it and do not a lot about… you know, we're not actually doing very much about it. And I'm not… I don't think that's a reflection of us in the room. I think that is a lack of…

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: A coordinated, clearly worked out strategy that everybody can sign up to.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: at government level.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: So I hope the, at least the, the, the, the,

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: petition, and the lobbying of Parliament, actually starts to make

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: the lack of joined-upness and incoherency, visible, and the frustrations that we have as parish councillors, in particular parish and town councillors.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: Actually getting stuff done, because the whole system seems to be geared against you, rather than with you.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: End of rent.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: It's not clear to me, David,

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Are you advocating a forum that will put together this particular policy, rather than saying the government can't do it itself?

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: I don't know what the right mechanism is, but one of the things that we do need to do is we need to be much more joined up in terms of how we… and engaged with. So, for example.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: If you're dealing with, food security, then we should… we should be part of that conversation.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: you'll have the grown-ups in the… at the government level making the long-term strategic decisions, but, you know, let's all work together to try and… try and make it happen. I mean, there are all sorts of exciting things going on in terms of

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: agriculture, the way in which you can generate stuff in much smaller spaces. But, you know, one of the things we've got to stop doing is building on the bloody land, and actually covering it in solar panels.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: You know, if we want food, you can't have that. We've got to think about a slightly more grown-up solution to power. We need micro-nuclear generators, for my particular view, as a core capability throughout… stitched out throughout the whole of the country.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: And that buys us out of the need to depend on fossil fuels.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: It is naive to assume that we can do everything through cellar and wind, it's just not going to happen.

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: So again, a joined-up, well-thought-through strategy that we as Parish and town councils particularly, can play our part in. both in terms of

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David MJ Ewshot Parish Council: Change of behaviours, changing capability, as well as putting in the resilience systems when things start to go wrong, which they will do in the short to medium term.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Hmm.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Okay, thank you. Piers, please.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: Hi, good morning, everyone.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: Apologies for having the camera off, it's… the connection's been a bit slow, but hopefully you can hear me okay. Jamie, I think kind of just to echo, like, what you're saying, how it's been… how the screenings have been a real catalyst for

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: Kind of getting people back together that maybe have…

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: were kind of involved in, kind of, climate action a few years ago, and have gone off slightly disparately… disparate directions, doing different things, all doing good work, but it's… I think it's definitely been really strong to see

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: The number of screenings that are kind of popping up, and the numbers of people that are attending them.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: Going back to… Andrew's point about the kind of community

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: action, so that… that's kind of a Forest and Climate Action Partnership, that's what we're about, supporting community action, and it

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: It's been a really useful catalyst to kind of lead into, kind of, how we can signpost and support people.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: with taking action in the community.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: what I noticed was, from the early doors.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: kind of version of the script, which I first looked at, there were kind of changes which seemed to have taken out that kind of climate, the local

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: action and how people could get involved. That seemed to change?

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Interesting.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: So it's interesting that you feel like you're going back to it. I'm wondering whether that was down to timings.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: But I've been to a couple of, kind of, follow-up meetings.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: From… that different screenings have done, and that's been really helpful, but… Perhaps some guidance around…

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: How follow-up meetings might be managed might be helpful for

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: For, kind of, people that are organizing them.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: And then… There's the kind of…

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: I think you, you sent me…

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: some helpful advice, recently, just to clarify about running online screenings. I now find myself in a position of being asked to run

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: in-person and an online screening for the local town and parish councillors, and elected members.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: And if there was any kind of…

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: guidance around how to do that, that would be quite helpful, I think, in terms of how to structure things and the timings, because it will

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: We'll change that a little bit.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: And… I think that… Oh, yeah, the only other thing was, just having read the council briefing.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: document yesterday, and had a meeting with some of the officers at the council,

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: It struck me that quite a lot of the advice in there is

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: They, aimed at larger local authorities, and actually, if there was something

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: some more bespoke stuff to help with the discussion for Parish level.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: Where the kind of responsibilities are, you know, are different.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: For the different tiers, but… Yeah, thank you for all your, your hard work on, on this.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): That's brilliant, thank you, Piers. In terms of the local action rollback, roll forwards, I think that was outside of my time, so I'm not…

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: Yeah, yeah.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I'm not actually over what the changes were.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): But, yeah, I think, from my perspective, encouraging more local action is definitely something that we want to do, actually even making space for it on the handout, the template handout that goes out to… that's given to everybody. And also, I really agree with your point about encouraging the need for follow-up meetings.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I think our sense was that hosts were likely to feel quite exhausted by the end of hosting, and, you know, maybe these things would happen organically, but in retrospect, when we've seen them done well, they really, really work, and they really do continue the mobilization of local people, so I think it's quite probably incumbent on me to ensure that there is at least one follow-up meeting for every screening that's happened and put together.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So that's definitely something I completely agree with you on. The parish-level advice, I would be really interested if you or anyone else on this call wanted to give me some thoughts on what shape that would take. That would definitely be something that I would value your expertise on, so do feel free to drop me an email if you've got any, just even top-line thoughts on… on what you think would be most suitable.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): for Parish councils in terms of post-film discussion, what the kind of areas of risk management might be from within a parish council background. I'm aware of my… the limits of my own knowledge.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): In terms of this, and my own experience. So, yeah, so any insight or pointers would be gratefully received.

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Piers Cardiff - Forest of Dean of Climate Action Partnership: I'd be with you in that category as well, Jamie, but I'm sure there's lots of people on this call that could help.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Thank you, Piers. Moving on to Gary, please.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Hi, Jamie. The current ask for the National Emergency Briefing Team is for a government briefing on the climate emergency.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: I was just wondering what… how often are you hoping that this

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: national briefing will take place by the government. And what is it that you're hoping that they're going to communicate to people?

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: The climate emergency.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Those are really great questions, actually. So let me… we've actually… because we get this quite a lot, there's actually quite a, detailed outline of what it is that we think a televised emergency briefing would look like.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Which I'm going to pop in the chat for you, because there's actually quite a lot in it, so I won't bore you all by going through it one by line by line, but, let me just stick it here, because it is something that an awful lot of people, ask us about. I mean, in terms of the top line.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): what we really want to see is that the government is treating the emergency briefing with the real seriousness that it did, as if it were a crisis. So, thinking back to those COVID briefings, is a really useful parallel, because these were, you know, science-led, properly informing the public about risk, and informing the public about what the government response should be, and what

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): individual's response should be as well. So it's very much about, ensuring that there is honesty and frankness in that conversation, that it's science-led, that it's delivered by, independent experts selected for their recognised authority and credibility, and we're really hopeful that

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): The briefing would take in, you know, some of the things that we've been talking about, about risk assessment in terms of national security, food security, these really big topics, but that actually have, you know, direct impact on people's daily lives,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So ensuring that happens, we think if it happened at that scale, and with that level of, frankness and openness, and treating the public like grown-ups, to echo what, I think it was David was saying.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): that this would actually really change the conversation within the UK. And this wouldn't be a one-off briefing, this would be, you know,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): a kind of a start of a national process, and it would be very much a process of explaining, well, this is the emergency, and this is the emergency response. And I think if we can get to that position, we'll be in a much better place than we are at the moment, where we're kind of pretending that there isn't an emergency, and that there is… the response is not kind of commensurate with the emergency that the science is saying that we are facing.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And as part of that, obviously, you know, having the buy-in, you know, having it delivered by government, having it introduced by the Prime Minister, lends it a level of gravity and seriousness that I think would ensure that it would

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): be across all TV, channels, radio stations, you know, it would be mass media, and then down into social media, reaching everybody, really. I think it would be a bit of a showstopper of a conversation.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): To have that… that level of honesty and frankness about the science and the risks.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): So I hope that makes some sense, but like I said, I'll pop the link in the chat for the longer thing.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Yeah, but I can see the government's reluctance then, Jamie, because, you know, I mean, that's just going to open them up to…

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: Claims of hypocrisy, like, at every level.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: If they're selling people, you know, this is what you should be doing.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: And this is the risks of doing something.

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: And then, like you say, you know, you're hearing in the news about government plans, and yeah.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): It's a pretty… I mean…

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Garry Ford - Corsham Town Council: massive risk to anybody to go up and say, well, this is what you… you know, come back into COVID, it's like Boris again, you know? Oh, yes, you shouldn't be meeting with people and having parties and stuff.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I do… I do hear what you're saying. I do hear what you're saying, Garry, but, you know, equally, there is huge risk if we do… if we do nothing.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And one would be hopeful that,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): having this conversation would trigger the emergency response that we need. There's a key line in the film, which I think resonates with a lot of people, which is that the physics doesn't care about the politics, and the physics is going to keep doing what it's going to do, and sadly, for the majority of us, that means quite catastrophic impacts if we don't get a handle on this, you know, impacts that we're already seeing this year and will continue to see. So, while I completely take your point about how uncomfortable this might be.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): For certain politicians to be,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): confronting the science in that way. Sadly, you know, there is… well, there is a choice. We either do that, or we, you know, end up in a much worse situation than we're in at the moment.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Frank, you've been remarkably patient.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: I think, Jimmy, I hear what you're saying, I hear what everyone's been saying. I think we are, unfortunately, getting towards a

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Frank Deas, Killearn: breakpoint where you may have to decide not to be apolitical, and to say political parties must now say what they stand for. Do they believe in the science or don't they?

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Frank Deas, Killearn: We have a government in power in Westminster who have rolled back on most of the green promises they made to get elected. We have a Conservative Party, as you say, that says it's going to do away with the woke net zero. We've just heard Essex Council is now throwing out all its stuff.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: we've got a bizarre situation where an extremist marginal party has decided it can launch attacks on people for being obsessed with net zero, when actually, I remember 76, and then we should all just go out and enjoy the sunshine.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: And as long as we allow that to happen, but don't actually put them in a corner and say, this is the truth, this is the science, these are the facts.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: Then political parties will continue to try and, without actually going as far as reform.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: follow similar paths in saying, yes, we're not actually talking about a climate crisis here, we're not actually going to do emergency things. I mean, we just had discussions earlier on about whether or not the oil fields in Scotland are going to be approved or not. That should be a no-brainer.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: you know, it shouldn't be something that's up for debate. The fact that our Prime Minister is worrying about whether or not he's going to do it, and as an interim measure has said, let's ban mobile barbecues.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: suggest that apolitical is not working. And I'm not going to put you on the spot today, because I appreciate NEB has come from a certain place and done certain things, but we are gradually being picked off

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Frank Deas, Killearn: council by council, MP by MP, by people who are willing to embrace the fake news, let's…

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Frank Deas, Killearn: destroy the science in a way that's been unprecedented. I think we were probably lucky in COVID, and it's hard to believe that having Boris as PM meant we were lucky, but we were lucky in COVID because there wasn't a political party that was anti-vax.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: We didn't have someone standing up there saying, no, no, no, vaccinations are useless, let's inject ourselves with bleach instead, it's much better.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: So that didn't happen, and we didn't have an election during that period. I dread to think what would have happened if we had those two things going together. But what we do have is a political party that will save whatever it thinks will rouse the masses, and…

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Frank Deas, Killearn: use that as a means of trying to get votes and get power. And we're in a real risk that when we speak the truth, when we say, here's what the science is.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: We're seen as being just another group of people trying to blame someone.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: So just as there are parties out there that blame everything on immigration, that blame everything on work for net zero, we get seen as we're blaming everything on climate change. The fact that it's true, and the science backs it up won't actually matter. People will vote for the easy option, and the people who promise them jam tomorrow, because that's what they've always voted for.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: So, I, I, I'm not… I…

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Frank Deas, Killearn: huge fan of what you're doing and the national briefing. I'm busy trying to get… we're a coalition of villages in South West Cherling. We've got half of them have done briefings so far. Our high school's about to do a briefing. You know, we're really enthusiastic about it, and it's great stuff.

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Frank Deas, Killearn: But I think we need to develop sharper teeth, because we need to have that fight back on saying the science is here, and political parties will have to stand up and be counted.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And, you know, very interestingly, we are at the point now where

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): the conversation about the science used to be this will happen in the future, and now I… but now I think what's shifting this year in particular, and likely into next year as the onion year continues, is very much being able to point and say, this is… this is what the science said would happen. And nobody likes to be, I told you so, but it does feel like we are entering into the…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I-told-you-so moment,

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): which is, you know, which is not a good place to be in, given the level of risks that we face. So, I do hear you. I go back to what I say about the physics and the politics, and we need to… I think what's really brilliant about the National Emergency Briefing, and I'm really pleased to hear about the local screenings you're doing, I mean, huge thanks to you, I think that's just so useful.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Is it… is ensuring that people are being informed at the level that they probably need to be.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): or at least aware of the… made aware of the risk that the science is saying is… is out there, and will impact their communities. And that… I guess that's what I'm trying to say. 2026 seems to be the year when actually communities across the UK

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): have been impacted, not once, but multiple times by this, and I do wonder how long that can continue

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): before people, you know, actually do join you in your stance of saying, okay, enough's enough. I don't know.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Well, I think the thing that came out as most frightening in the film was that the changes that they'd been saying were going to happen are actually happening a lot faster than they expected them to, and that's really awful.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: So, yeah, we'll see. Well, does anyone else have any questions for Jamie, please, before we wrap this up?

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: It's been a fascinating morning, Jamie. Thank you so much for your time, and trouble, and taking the care. And we've got a question from Nick Drew.

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Nick Drew (Wirral): Yeah, hi Jamie, it's great to have you on the team. But I'm conscious that there's…

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Nick Drew (Wirral): there's a lot of different networks and organisations and groups that are sort of part of the response to this, and I'm sure it's not your… within your capacity, or even within the NEB's

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Nick Drew (Wirral): aims to sort of… to actually try and coordinate all that, but it does feel that there is a need for that to happen somehow, and things like the Great Collaboration are a sort of an attempt in that space. But do you have a vision, Jamie, within the NEB team about how far along that road you can actually go with the limited resources you've got? Because it does feel that there's a lot of…

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Nick Drew (Wirral): Excitement about the film and capacity that people would like to put to useful action, but there's just that sort of coordination piece feels very, very missing somehow.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): No, I take your point, Nick. I think that coordination is consistently a problem in terms of climate and nature, because it's such a sprawling, a sprawling, crisis, right?

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): And so there are many different ways into it, and many different groups doing really, really important and valuable work. We are trying to partner with as many people as possible, and there's lots of ongoing conversations at the moment. I think the petition hitting 100,000 people, and the idea that there might be a debate in Parliament has certainly really useful, I think, from that point of view.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I don't think it is for us to be…

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): necessarily leading the charge on that coordination, and I don't think we have the capacity to do it either. But hopefully, the flag that we're planting in the ground, you know, with a very clear kind of end point.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): to bring people on towards is one that's really useful, and hopefully the continued kind of rolling out of the science in an accessible way to people, is also really useful in terms of that broader coalition, that I think you're referring to.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): I don't know how that coordination happens, to be honest with you, at such a huge scale. I wonder if it happens organically, or if it has to be managed top-down, I don't know. But, I do agree with you that it would be great to see more of it, so yes.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Chris, you wanted to have another go?

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Yeah, thank you.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: I'm hoping you can hear me.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: The most difficult topic That we need to cover sensitively is that of mass migration.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: When humans find their locality, The area where they live becomes uninhabitable. They move.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: We are going to see millions and millions moving to the northern and southern latitudes, as it were, And…

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Obviously, this plays into one of the political parties Game… Plans.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: So how do we answer?

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: The fact that, as a result of mass migration, we will have to cope with mass migration into this country.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: As a result of climate change, and how do we deal with that?

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: I'm just putting that out there because that's a question that

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Will inevitably come up time and time again.

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Chris McFarling - St Briavels: Thank you.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Where in the PEB, that was raised as a national security level, wasn't it? Because the people who were responsible for our security are looking at this and saying, we see this is going to happen. So, yeah, you're right to raise it, but I think it has been spotted.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Anyone else, please, before I say thank you all for coming to what's been a fascinating session, and I hope it's got lots of people inspired to help

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: do more things locally. As you probably all recognize, we do publish the results of this on the Knowledge Base, and you'll all be able to see the chats and the links and the helpful suggestions that have been made.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: And, I'll let you all know when it's… it's been done.

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Graham Stoddart-Stones - Great Collaboration - overseasbranch: Thank you so much for your time, and I look forward to seeing you next week. Take care.

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Jamie Russell NEB (Shrewsbury): Thank you, everyone.